FOOTBALL/HOOPS: Morgan State game thread

Because I can’t believe this Morgan State game is on the minds of too many Ole Miss fans today, I ask this question. It appears MSU football coach Sylvester Croom has resigned. How does that impact Ole Miss? Is it good, bad or insignificant?

Leave your comments below, and we’ll talk some basketball along the way.

— PA

59 Responses to “FOOTBALL/HOOPS: Morgan State game thread”

  1. djrebel Says:

    A slow start for Malcolm White. He started, but he’s out of the game. Nice basket by Cranston early. Would be good to see the Rebels begin to develop some consistency in the post.

  2. djrebel Says:

    Rebels up 17-12 at the 11:45 mark.

  3. djrebel Says:

    It’s 22-all at 6:56. Rebels went 4 minutes without scoring in one stretch. Looking very out of sync on offense and struggling to guard an average post player on defense.

    You figure Huertas was due a game where all his shots didn’t fall. This could be it, and Warrenn isn’t hot either right now.

    They’re both streaky players and could light it up soon.

  4. djrebel Says:

    As I sit here watchiing the Rebels flirt with disaster I’m wondering exactly where is the state of Morgan, and what states does it border?

    22-22 at 5:48.

  5. Glenn M Says:

    Hope the Rebs match their last season’ success in bball, but I don’t see it at this point. State’s football situation will all depend upon who they hire of course. Who the heck would want that job? If they’re smart, they do what UT should’ve done and hire one of those up-and-coming success story head coaches from the likes of Utah or Boise, who would like a shot at the SEC HC job. [a la Urban Meyer] We’ll see. For the short term I see this as a positive for OM on all levels. Rebel football is in a unique position of being a rising SECW team at the moment. Add to that UT is on the skids, Vandy has probably peaked, SC and Ky are no powerhouses. I believe the OM/Bama game next year decides the SECW. Sorry for the ramble, but just wanted to weigh in since the blog was slow. Thx for all your good work, PA.

    From the hills of N Ark, where they are celebrating another Miracle on Markham.

  6. djrebel Says:

    Glenn you are right on several points but especially that the blog is slow.

    How about Tommy Bowden at State? They could go the recycling route.

    — PA

  7. Glenn M Says:

    Bowden wouldn’t be bad, hadn’t thought about him. Todd Graham at my other alma mater, Tulsa, would be a good hire for somebody, too. TU can never hang on to good coaches in both big sports. The list is endless. You made me curious with the Morgan St comment. I thought it was in DC, but it’s in Baltimore, renamed along the way for a man named Morgan. Started out as a Methodist Church-North school. Rebs definitely need to get a W today!!

  8. djrebel Says:

    Rebels trailed by 4 a few minutes ago and after a couple of free throws by Warren with 5.7 seconds left now trail 34-32 at halftime.

    — PA

  9. asudduth Says:


    I do not see it hurting Ole Miss, it could help us depending on who they pick.

    Someone was talking to me about Tuberville if Auburn loses to Alabama, What do you think of that Scenerio?

    And if you know of someone else that might be high on the list, will you throw those names out?

    Croom seemed like a great guy, but from what he did last year, the fans wanted the same or better from him. I hope the best for him.

  10. Your Favorite Nephew Says:

    If Georgia loses do we still have a chance to go to the Capital One Bowl?

  11. djrebel Says:

    Hey Adam, thanks for checking in. I’ve heard the Tuberville rumor. Seems like a step down for Tuberville. Don’t know if that matters to him if the money is right.

    It is interesting to note that State and Ole Miss have now both fired the reigning SEC coach of the year.

    — PA

  12. djrebel Says:

    Glenn, I hadn’t thought about Todd Graham. It would be interesting if he came and brought Gus Mahlzahn, then Gus and Houston went at it every year.

    — PA

  13. Glenn M Says:

    No doubt the Malzahn factor would bring ‘interest’ to say the least. Coach Graham did a good job getting Rice to bowls before his TU tenure. He’ll be going places. Tulsa ex-head coaches in football and basketball make a hall of fame list.

    Ga Tech is beating UGa right now in 2nd half. Reckon a loss by UGa would get Rebs into the Capitol One Bowl? SC is also trailing Clemson late. And KU has led Mizzou all game. Upsets in the works. Hey Parrish, how do I get an OM avatar? Anything’s fine, the Colonel, script, block, not picky.

  14. djrebel Says:

    A loss by UGA would make the Cap 1 think harder.

    Rebels were down by 7 this half now up 44-42 at 16:15.

  15. djrebel Says:

    David Brandt and I tried to get a Pete Boone response to the events of the day, but he had no comment.

  16. L2 Says:

    This may be way off the radar – but talked with a buddy this morning asking had I heard what had took place with Clayton Moore last night? It was the first I had heard that he was kicked off the team after an altercation with coach before half, then tore up the locker room before the team came in. He was finally escorted from the stadium after that.
    Needless to say – i hear his offer has been revoked from the Rebs. Didn’t want to start any rumor – just curious if anyone had heard anything about that.

    Also, I know nationally it is not being talked much – but with South Carolina getting the beat down put on them & Georgia in trouble to Tech….Can Houston’s prognostication skills of saying the more we win, the warmer it is going to get – come true?

  17. djrebel Says:

    Hey Nephew thanks for checking in. I think if Georgia loses it makes the Cap 1 Bowl consider if they want a group of Georgia fans who are disappointed by their finish in the SEC considering they began the season ranked No. 1.

    These bowl games are all about happy, excited fans who travel and spend money. Ole Miss fans are happy and excited.

    Drew, I can’t publicly state that you’re my favorite nephew, but you’re in the top 4.

    — PA

  18. djrebel Says:

    Here’s Nutt on the Croom resignation: “It’s sad, but it doesn’t surprise me. It’s the way of the world in college football.”

    — PA

  19. djrebel Says:

    Rebels on a 15-0 run fueled by defense and transition game. Holloway is looking really good in this stretch.

    Ole Miss 52-42 at 14:17.

    — PA

  20. Michael Says:

    How is the crowd PA? Would be there but have post Thanksgiving family stuff going on. By the way, Georgia’s defense is playing like the triple option was just invented today. Capital One is a bigger possibility than people realize.

  21. djrebel Says:

    Rebels fell behind 59-58. Now lead 65-61 at 7:36 with a timeout.

  22. djrebel Says:

    Michael, crowd isn’t particularly small for what this game would have drawn in the past, but it’s not a real active crowd. There hasn’t been a lot to cheer for too.

    — PA

  23. john Says:

    I understand Capital One has already told Cotton they are taking Georgia win or lose, with economy, closer fan base. Rebs to Cotton.

  24. djrebel Says:

    Location is everything they say.

    Rebels up 76-65 with 1:56 left. I’m running low on battery, so I may be checking out here shortly.

  25. pgrebels! Says:

    Georgia and South Carolina both lose today. How does it affect bowl outlook for Rebs?

  26. djrebel Says:

    Doesn’t affect it unless the Cap 1 decides it wants Ole Miss. Cotton gets dibs on the West team before the Outback does.

    Hoops is a final. Rebels defeat MSU again, this time 78-70.

  27. pgrebels! Says:

    It seems to me that the Rebels have played better in the last month than Georgia. I think that the rank of best teams in the SEC are 1. Florida 2. Bama 3. Ole Miss. Ole Miss deserves to get to play in a different location against another conference than Big 12. The last few bowls have all been against Big 12 opponents, except for WV in the Music City.

  28. rebel2011 Says:

    I was at the basketball game, and at times we looked really good but at other times looked completely lost. I think that Terrance Henry could be really good, but he desperately needs to eat some meat and potatoes. If he was only 6 feet tall there is no way he would weigh over 130. I also think that Holloway is going to be very very good. He seems to be the one who will bring the energy to both the team and the crowd that Polynice did last year. The question is how long will it take these freshman to develop? That i think will determine whether we have a decent season or a really good one. PA what do you think about this and what do you think about the freshmen?

  29. rebnutt Says:

    What about Skip Holtz for the MSU job? He’s had an up & down year at East Carolina , but he’s pretty good–in fact, I would hope they don’t get him.
    As for what it may mean for us, folks should go to Rivals, Scout, etc. and look at State’s commits, 5-6 four-stars, and as PA said, they’re ranked 21st or so and we’re ranked 52nd. I’m confident we’ll improve that ranking, but we need to do better: we should mop up with the kind of season we’ve had & the uncertainty in Starkville. I’ll be disappointed if our recruiting doesn’t move up to the top 15-20 range.

  30. Jimmy Barbee Says:

    “impact Ole Miss? Is it good, bad or insignificant?” I would like to say insignificant. The Rebels have good athletic programs building, some already establish and other in the progress at this stage. It could be that Miss State has created its own problems, so let them work it out. Their baseball and now the football program is in total disarray. Will this problem that is effecting those program feed into the now basketball program, don’t know.

  31. djrebel Says:

    Rebnutt, I do think the recruiting ranking will improve. Part of that to this point in the season has had to do with fewer verbal commits as Nutt says he’s being very careful about who he offers. Still, there’s a big gap between 21 and 52, and Nutt referenced that yesterday.

    I haven’t followed Holtz much since they’re fast start, but he’s a guy I could see taking the MSU job.

    2011, I’m liking Murphy Holloway a lot right now, and I think his role needs to increase. I know it’s all about matchups, chemistry and who plays well together. I know Holloway, as they all do, has a lot to learn, but his production seems to speak for itself.

    — PA

  32. va reb Says:

    I agree with rebnutt. I think MSU problems will help us with recruiting. I wish Croom the best. He’s a good man. Still enjoying the Rebs’ big win. What a difference a season makes!!

  33. cr Says:

    Significant only if they hire a young energetic coach that recruits well.

  34. djrebel Says:

    Does anyone believe the Tommy Tuberville to Mississippi State rumor will come about? I’ve heard that one a lot.

    — PA

  35. rebelfan38652 Says:

    I can’t see Tuberville at Cow College. I would be going after Boise States coach. Whats the word on Clayton Moore?

  36. Chad Says:

    PA, I don’t know if there is any truth to the Tuberville rumor, but it makes sense on several levels. First, he probably will be looking for a job beginning next week. Secondly, there MAY be less pressure at MSU than he faced at Auburn. Finally, we cannot look past the fact that it would greatly increase the rivalry between us and State. (As if the rivalry needs more emphasis!) Former Rebel coach, whom many wanted to run out of Oxford on a rail, coaching our in state rival could be a dream come true for the Bulldogs.

  37. rebel2011 Says:

    i seriously doubt he will be gone this year. I think for sure he will be back at auburn next year. I think everyone at auburn remembers the last time they almost got rid of him for Petrino, the next year he went on to go undefeated and got snubbed by the BCS. However, I think that if he did happen to leave, that he would not go to state. I just don’t see that happening.

  38. rebel2011 Says:

    Also here is an interesting one. Anyone think that if Notre Dame fires Charlie Weis then Urban Meyer will go to coach there? I have heard that Notre Dame is his dream job and that he is a devout Catholic. Anyone think he would do that, even if they win the NC?

  39. rebelfan38652 Says:

    What about Clayton Moore?

  40. 03Rebel Says:

    2011: Today ESPN mentioned Urban got the ND offer before Weis, but chose Florida.

  41. Jimmy Barbee Says:

    Tommy Tuberville to Mississippi State!!! I believe that he knows that he could never build a big winner there. He did good at Ole Miss with limited talent at the start and built a winning team, and that he could never do that at Miss State. Jackie Sherrill, Bob Tyler and other tried it at State without much success.

  42. rebel2011 Says:

    03Rebel: I read or heard something about that and the article said that he did not take the job then because his family was still young, had kids in elementary and jr. high, and it said that when you coach at Notre Dame you have to recruit nationally, which he was not ready to be gone all the time when his family was young. Because at florida most all of the recruits come from in state. It also said that he would be ready now because his family is older. Anyways, either way, i hope he stays at Florida, because he is a great coach and will keep the SEC strong.

  43. rebel2011 Says:

    This is the link to the article, i was able to find it. Its an interesting read for anyone interested.

  44. bigdraws Says:

    JB, how can you say Jackie had not much success at State. That’s pretty much a dumb comment, and you’re probably just trying to get a rise out of some of us. Nutt took the Om job when it looked like no one would want it too. No om team has ever won the west and made it to the championship game. I just don’t see how it’s that much better than the State job. Just some thoughts for yall to kill me over I’m sure.

  45. 03Rebel Says:

    That “success” came at a price, by cheating. The Croom hire made Ms State and the SEC appear politically correct, and most helped Ms State by getting them a weakened punishment. If Sherril was still there, I believe the NCAA would have handed out a fairer punishment. You can’t really claim that as your teams greatest accomplishment, if it got you put on probation.
    I think any SEC head coaching position would be attractive for almost any coach. Especially the way they are paying these days.

  46. farley662 Says:

    We can’t claim that but y’all can claim a Western Division title you didn’t win? Hello pot this is kettle, kettle this is pot.

  47. 03Rebel Says:

    Did we cheat for that tie? Is that our best accomplishment? Do you have another board that you can post your frustrations on?

  48. Jimmy Barbee Says:

    I had respect for Jackie and think that he brought some class to that Miss State football program. Bob Tyler did the same. I can’t see why Ole Miss let Tyler slip thru the cracks since he was home grown. Coach Croom must have been so excited on Friday knowing that he was on his way out of Starksville and not going down with that sinking ship.

  49. bigdraws Says:

    The only reason we got put on probation is because Dicky Scruggs (a crook on a bigger platform) made sure of it. Believe me, Ole Miss has done their share of shady recruiting.

  50. bigdraws Says:

    I also love the baseball comment Jb. We hired a proven coach and will be back very soon. The funny thing is, we still make it to Omaha during a bad period of our history.

  51. Jimmy Barbee Says:

    Draws I was probably the only supporter left of Miss State baseball and Coach Polk at the end of the season. Everyone else had jumped ship and was waiting to see Coach Polk dangling from a rope.

  52. farley662 Says:

    I don’t have frustrations. You made an a stupid comment. Do you like to try to sound smart? Does it make you feel like a big man? Do you still take your hat off and salute when Dixie is played? Does asking questions no one cares about make me sound like a jerk too?

  53. farley662 Says:

    I don’t have frustrations. You made an a stupid comment. Do you like to try to sound smart? Does it make you feel like a big man? Do you still take your hat off and salute when Dixie is played? Does asking questions no one cares about make me sound like a jerk too?

  54. bigdraws Says:

    If I was an Om fan I wouldn’t have wanted him to leave either. Didn’t mean to get yall mad over here so I’ll leave. Congratulations on the win.

  55. farley662 Says:

    Sorry for the repeat post.

  56. Jimmy Barbee Says:

    Farley, I stand and salute, take my hat off and do a little dance when DIXIE is played. You would get a bit of enjoyment seeing me do the dance. Remember Jed Clampet on the Hillbillies, I got him beat.

  57. farley662 Says:

    JB, that would make me smile. Just smiled thinking about it. How’s Mrs. JB?

  58. Jimmy Barbee Says:

    Doing fine. Back at her old self again. Got me chasing the dog thru the house with the vac. How’s the little guy doing?

  59. farley662 Says:

    He’s great. Started laughing for the first time Thanksgiving night. He has had a constant smile on his face and a ton more energy. Seems to be at about 95%, which is an improvement because he was only at about 85% to begin with because of his O2 sats. His average was about 84% oxygen in the blood and now its between 95-100% constantly. When he fully heals, watch out!

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