FOOTBALL: Deuce cut loose

You could see this day coming. As a Saints fan I appreciate Deuce McAllister’s contributions to a long-suffering franchise. Here’s the AP account of his release.

— PA

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25 Responses to “FOOTBALL: Deuce cut loose”

  1. ColoradoReb Says:

    Man the Saints just lost some long time fans. I always supported Duece and always will. He is a real hero for kids to look up to. I hear he may head to Denver. If he does I may have to stay in Co. so I can watch the donkeys. I wish the NFL would start a senior league for some of the older guys that all of us still like to watch.
    On another note, I hate they got rid of Joe Horn. I carried my kids to watch the Saints scrimmage in Jackson a couple of years ago. Me and the boys were at the front of the line to get Joe to sign their jersey’s. The people were pushing so hard my boys were getting smothered to the point I was ready to fight. Joe Horn stopped the whole thing and screamed that “get back up off these babies, I aint signing nothing for anybody until these babies get theirs.” Then he got his security and himself to push the crowd off of us. I will always respect Joe for that.

  2. ColoradoReb Says:

    Hey PA, a story for you, if you have time to check sources. Mike Leach is talking with Auburn and if a deal can reached he is gone from TT and Chic-fil-A is out or takes a lesser position with the team.
    Also, I hear more trouble with O and Tenn. Soon to be announced.
    These are not confirmed facts but rumors that can from someone who could really know. I have to put my disclaimer in before the wolves attack. Check on it PA.

  3. Jeff Jolly Says:

    Colorado,
    I heard on the radio on the way to work this morning that Leach had refused TT’s latest contract offer. Could be something to what you heard. But I just don’t see them getting rid of Chic-fil-A this quick.

  4. JB Says:

    “Man the Saints just lost some long time fans.” Not me and my son, we have been Saint fans since day ONE of the Saints.

  5. JB Says:

    They may have cut loose deuce but they still have Reggy Man and Brees. We knew that knew that McAllister would not be around much longer, anyway with the Saints.

  6. redstickrebel Says:

    Everyone knew this was coming. I would be surprised if he ever plays again. If Shannahan were in Denver then yes. I have heard from Saints insiders that Duece had his knee’s drained constantly last year and that is why Payton was hush hush about his status. Put Duece as a PR man for the Saints and Ole Miss will have the two most beloved Saints as ambassators for the organizations. Archie and Duece and that keeps them close too OM which will help also.

  7. redstickrebel Says:

    Everyone knew this was coming. I would be surprised if he ever plays again. If Shannahan were in Denver then yes. I have heard from Saints insiders that Deuce had his knee’s drained constantly last year and that is why Payton was hush hush about his status. Put Deuce as a PR man for the Saints and Ole Miss will have the two most beloved Saints as ambassador’s for the organization. Archie and Deuce and that keeps them close too OM which will help also.

  8. cr Says:

    His contract was so back-end loaded they had little choice. I think he may like to retire but since he invested in car dealerships he may have to try to find something.

  9. JG Says:

    I took this off rivals. Looks like we are in some pretty good company

    Profiling the BCS title chase narrows the field

    Olin Buchanan
    Rivals.com College Football

    USC won’t win the 2009 national championship.

    Neither will Oklahoma, Alabama or Utah.

    Florida, West Virginia and Virginia Tech might.

    Tim Tebow returns to Florida seeking to defend the national title.
    Before the residents of L.A., Norman, Tuscaloosa and Salt Lake City start making charges of East Coast bias, they should understand that proclamation is only based on the trends of past BCS national champions.

    The 2009 Gators, Mountaineers and Hokies meet the profile of a national champion. The Sooners, Tide and Utes do not. Well, not completely, anyway.

    Five common denominators of the 11 BCS national champions were used to determine the teams that are most likely to hoist the crystal ball in Pasadena next January. A half-dozen of the NCAA’s 120 Football Bowl Subdivision teams meet all the criteria for each category.

    A similar profile was created last year and only six teams – Wake Forest, Rutgers, Kansas, Southern California, Alabama and Georgia – matched all five characteristics. All posted at least eight victories, but none won the national championship.

    Florida, which did win the national title, matched four of the five characteristics. The one the Gators did not fit was winning a bowl the season before their championship year.

    Before Florida in ’08, the previous four champions had won bowl games the preceding year. Now, though, six of the 11 BCS national champions won the title coming off bowl losses, so that no longer is used as characteristic in the profile.

    By moderately tweaking the traits of the 11 BCS champions, here’s a five-category breakdown to profile the teams most likely to emerge as next season’s national champion.

    1. Be a “Big Six” conference member or Notre Dame: There is no denying this requirement. Utah was undefeated last season, had a victory over Oregon State (which beat USC), then beat Alabama in the Sugar Bowl. Yet the Utes didn’t get to play in the BCS title game and finished second in the AP poll and fourth in the coaches’ poll. That’s the second time in five seasons the Utes finished unbeaten but didn’t get a chance to play for the national crown. Unbeaten Boise State was denied in 2006. Until the system proves otherwise, it has to be assumed no team – other than Notre Dame – that’s not in the Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-10, SEC or ACC has a realistic chance at the national championship.

    Fitting the profile: The 66 “Big Six” teams.

    2. Post at least eight victories the previous season: Last year, the standard was seven victories. But each of the past six national champions and nine of the 11 overall won at least eight games the previous season. In fact, eight champions were coming off at least nine-win seasons. We’ll keep it at eight wins.

    Fitting the profile: There are 37 teams that fit the first two characteristics.

    Frank Beamer has one of the teams that fit the profile of a title contender.
    3. Posted a winning record in post-October regular-season games: A strong showing in November often is a sign of a team improving and coming together. While LSU went 2-2 post-October in 2002 before winning the ’03 national championship, every other BCS national champion had a winning record in November and December games. Six champions (Tennessee in ’98, Florida State in ’99, Miami in ’01, USC in ’04, Texas in ’05 and Florida in ’08) were unbeaten after October. Of course, some were unbeaten before October, too.

    Fitting the profile: There are 25 teams that meet the first three criteria – Alabama, 4-0; Boston College, 4-1; California, 3-2; Cincinnati, 5-0; Florida, 5-0; Georgia Tech, 3-1; Iowa, 3-1; Michigan State, 3-1; Mississippi, 4-0; Missouri, 3-1; Nebraska, 3-1; Northwestern, 3-1; Ohio State, 3-0; Oklahoma, 4-0; Oregon, 3-1; Oregon State, 4-1; Penn State, 3-1; Pittsburgh, 4-1; Rutgers, 4-0; Texas, 3-1; Texas Tech, 3-1; USC, 5-0; Wake Forest, 3-2; West Virginia, 3-2 and Virginia Tech, 3-1.

    4. Return a junior or senior quarterback with starting experience: All 11 national champion quarterbacks were juniors or seniors and all but Tennessee’s Tee Martin had previous starting experience.

    Still fitting the profile: There are 17 teams still fitting the profile – California (Kevin Riley), Cincinnati (Tony Pike), Florida (Tim Tebow), Georgia Tech (Josh Nesbitt), Iowa (Richard Stanzi), Mississippi (Jevan Snead), Northwestern (Mike Kafka), Oklahoma (Sam Bradford, Oregon (Jeremiah Masoli), Oregon State (Lyle Moevao), Penn State (Daryll Clark), Pittsburgh (Bill Stull), Texas (Colt McCoy), USC (Mitch Mustain), Wake Forest (Riley Skinner), West Virginia (Jarrett Brown) and Virginia Tech (Tyrod Taylor).

    5. Return at least six starters from a defense that ranked in the top 20 in scoring defense the previous season: Last year, we looked at teams’ ranking in the top 40 of total defense the previous year, but scoring defense makes the list even more exclusive. Statistics for ’97 and ’98 are unavailable, but eight of the past nine BCS champions ranked 20th or better in scoring defense the previous season. And 10 of the 11 teams returned at least six defensive starters (only Tennessee in ’98 did not).

    Still fitting the profile: There are six teams that meet all five criteria – Florida (fourth in scoring defense, 11 returning starters); Iowa (fifth, eight); Mississippi (20th, eight); Texas (18th, seven); West Virginia (11th, eight) and Virginia Tech (ninth, seven).

    Again, nothing is absolute, but history shows a team coming off at least an eight-win season and returning an experienced quarterback and the majority of a proven defense has a good chance to win the national championship.

    Of course, that doesn’t mean a team that only matches some of the criteria won’t emerge as the national champion. Remember, Florida won the ’08 national championship even though it ranked 46th in scoring defense in ’07.

    That’s just a recent reminder some trends are meant to be bucked.

  10. bigdraws Says:

    Great Expectations
    Charles Dickens
    Chapter 1

    ——————————————————————————–

    My father’s family name being Pirrip, and my Christian name Philip, my infant tongue could make of both names nothing longer or more explicit than Pip. So, I called myself Pip, and came to be called Pip.

    I give Pirrip as my father’s family name, on the authority of his tombstone and my sister — Mrs Joe Gargery, who married the blacksmith. As I never saw my father or my mother, and never saw any likeness of either of them (for their days were long before the days of photographs), my first fancies regarding what they were like, were unreasonably derived from their tombstones. The shape of the letters on my father’s, gave me an odd idea that he was a square, stout, dark man, with curly black hair. From the character and turn of the inscription, `Also Georgiana Wife of the Above,’ I drew a childish conclusion that my mother was freckled and sickly. To five little stone lozenges, each about a foot and a half long which were arranged in a neat row beside their grave, and were sacred to the memory of five little brothers of mine — who gave up trying to get a living, exceedingly early in that universal struggle — I am indebted for a belief I religiously entertained that they had all been born on their backs with their hands in their trousers- pockets, and had never taken them out in this state of existence.

    Ours was the marsh country, down by the river, within, as the river wound, twenty miles of the sea. My first most vivid and broad impression of the identity of things, seems to me to have been gained on a memorable raw afternoon towards evening. At such a time I found out for certain, that this bleak place overgrown with nettles was the churchyard; and that Philip Pirrip, late of this parish, and also Georgiana wife of the above, were dead and buried; and that Alexander, Bartholomew, Abraham, Tobias, and Roger, infant children of the aforesaid, were also dead and buried; and that the dark flat wilderness beyond the churchyard, intersected with dykes and mounds and gates, with scattered cattle feeding on it, was the marshes; and that the low leaden line beyond, was the river; and that the distant savage lair from which the wind was rushing was the sea; and that the small bundle of shivers growing afraid of it all and beginning to cry, was Pip.

    `Hold your noisel’ cried a terrible voice, as a man started up from among the graves at the side of the church porch. `Keep still, you little devil, or I’ll cut your throat!’

    A fearful man, all in coarse grey, with a great iron on his leg. A man with no hat, and with broken shoes, and with an old rag tied round his head. A man who had been soaked in water, and smothered in mud, and lamed by stones, and cut by flints, and stung by nettles, and torn by briars; who limped, and shivered, and glared and growled; and whose teeth chattered in his head as he seized me by the chin.

    `O! Don’t cut my throat, sir,’ I pleaded in terror. `Pray don’t do it, sir.’

    `Tell us your namel’ said the man. `Quickly’

    `Pip, sir.’

    `Once more,’ said the man, staring at me. `Give it mouth!’

    `Pip. Pip, sir.’

    `Show us where you live,’ said the man. `Pint out the place!’

    I pointed to where our village lay, on the flat in-shore among the alder-trees and pollards, a mile or more from the church.

    The man, after looking at me for a moment, turned me upside down, and emptied my pockets. There was nothing in them but a piece of bread. When the church came to itself– for he was so sud- den and strong that he made it go head over heels before me, and I saw the steeple under my feet — when the church came to itself, I say, I was seated on a high tombstone, trembling, while he ate the bread ravenoualy.

    `You young dog,’ said the man, licking his lips, `what fat cheeks you ha’ got

  11. JG Says:

    Your are a funny guy Bigdraws.

  12. redstickrebel Says:

    Sounds like a filibuster. You into poltics?

  13. JB Says:

    “My father’s family name being Pirrip, and my Christian name Philip, my infant tongue could make of both names nothing longer or more explicit than Pip. So, I called myself Pip, and came to be called Pip.”

    Much sympathy here, my old a tongue gets all tied and twisted frequently and it make me say things that I don’t want to say and to say things that I want to say but it don’t come out like what I should say. This making me being called all sorts of names,
    Allright Draws, gotcha! Thanks.

  14. Ackermanrebel Says:

    Had dinner in oxford sunday night with jim haselett he told me shanahan and him and grueden are working on a team for next season. He wouild not say which one.H e mentioned duece i think they are still close would not be surprised to see something develop there.

  15. farley662 Says:

    3 ex-head coaches coaching on the same team?

  16. Ackermanrebel Says:

    That is what he said . Shanahan told him not to except any offers wait on him i took it that they all are close.

  17. JG Says:

    That is a lot of egos for one room.

    Shanahan GM? or some type COO
    Grueden Head Coach?
    Haselett Defensive Cord?

  18. GoToHellLSU Says:

    I doubt most Saints fans will quit on them because of this, but the pressure is now really on coach Peyton. JB must just watch highlights to think Bush is any kind of answer for RB. The poor team running last year put more pressure on the defense, and so on.

    I saw the reports of frequent knee aspirations, but why play him at all if using injury as an excuse? He still ended up second in rushing and averaged almost 5 a carry (on plays called to run straight ahead). He is a big back that wears on defenses, but not with only 6 touches/game. Bush was targeted on 80% of the plays, when he wasn’t on IR. Payton’s got to make bigger changes than this. If they don’t make the playoffs, he’s fired, especially after axing the most popular Saint.

    If you’re a sports fan, you have to pull for Deuce, where ever he goes. I hope he has at least one more great year and can contribute on a winning team.

  19. flareb Says:

    Draws,
    You ought to make that into a tv show. “Lite time on the backdeck of the double wide.”

  20. ColoradoReb Says:

    I don’t think RB is a power runner like Deuce. I wouldn’t even put them in the same class. It looked to me Deuce had to take up the slack for RB. So much that he was being over used and likely contributed to the constant knee problems. I have always loved the Saints through it all, but I’m really sick of the way College and Pro ball has gone. Coaching is a winning game but the love of a fan doesn’t involve money and to a true fan doesn’t always involve winning. To me its all about the fight. Kinda goes along the lines of what JB said about the basketball team a few weeks back.

  21. bigdraws Says:

    Trailer jokes. Been so long since somebody’s broke one out, I forgot how funny they were.

  22. farley662 Says:

    I went to school with Deuce in Morton for several years. He’s a class act. Good baseball player as well. With that being said, he has been hurt his entire career. You can’t blame them for not wanting to pay him millions of dollars to sit on the bench.

  23. JB Says:

    ” JB must just watch highlights to think Bush is any kind of answer for RB”. Reggie can’t run inside like the Deuce, but he can make up for this in other ways. Deuce my catch on with some other team, just don’t know as yet.

  24. bigdraws Says:

    He was even hurt a lot in college.

  25. ColoradoReb Says:

    Draws just his Senior year because he wanted to make sure he didn’t hurt that NFL contract. His best year by far was his junior year. I think he wa hurt a lot because he was over used by the Saints and they waited too long to get a Bush

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